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Find The Outside

A lively, off-the-cuff conversation hosted by Tuesday Ryan-Hart and Tim Merry on large-scale systems change and equity. For surprising turns, mind-blowing perspective shifts, and good ideas no matter what’s in the way.

In this podcast, we’ll share our greatest light-bulb moments as we advance our own understanding of this work. We’re doing it live, and inviting you in. Welcome! As Tim says in the first episode: reflection is too important to leave to chance. These conversations give us (and you!) a chance to slow down, catch our breath, and see our space and our work more clearly. Subscribe, share, and watch for new episodes coming through the fall. We’re happy to be in your ears!

What does it take to lead, collaborate and create change when the systems around us feel increasingly stretched?


Tim Merry sits down with longtime friend and colleague Sera Thompson to explore what this moment is asking of leaders, facilitators and changemakers. They talk about burnout, polarization and the fraying of our institutions - but also about the power of relationships, collective wisdom and simply being together.


Sera shares how Art of Hosting transformed her own leadership practice, why conflict can be a source of wisdom, and why creating spaces where people can genuinely connect may be one of the most important things we can do right now.


It’s a conversation about finding our way through complexity — not alone, but together.




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