S08.42: Romance Reasons Meet Thriller Reasons with Anders de la Motte

Fated Mates

Once upon a time, Sarah went to Sweden and met a thriller writer who likes talking about the rules of writing in genre as much as we do. We’re so excited that to be able to bring Anders de la Motte’s brilliant thoughts about thrillers and mysteries to Fated Mates in this far-reaching conversation on romance’s sister genres—thrillers & mysteries. We talk about Anders’s path to writing, about the rules of writing thrillers and mysteries, about the covenant mysteries and thrillers have with readers, and about Mystery Reasons™️. We had the best time with this one — you’re going to love it.

Learn more about Anders’s books at his English language publishers, Simon & Schuster and Harpercollins

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Our next read along is an old school contemporary, Perfect by Judith McNaught. Sarah says it has the greatest all-is-lost moment in romance history. Read it to find out if she’s right. Get it at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Apple Books or wherever you get your books.

Thrillers and Mysteries Mentioned in This Episode


Notes

Welcome Anders de la Motte, author of mysteries and thrillers. Many of his books have been translated to English, most recently The Asker series.

Many of the most famous fictional detectives we mentioned are on this list.

In fiction, unreliability is a narrative device meant to purposefully confuse or lie to the reader for the purposes of the story. We’ve argued that it’s more or less impossible to have an unreliable narrator in romance.

A good explainer on the difference between close 3rd (used in romance) and limited 3rd (used in mysteries/thrillers)

MacGuffins and other mystery and thriller tropes and vocabulary.

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