Donald Trump has called the Iranians scum, as he calls off ceasefire talks. At the NATO summit in Ankara, his comments on Iran, Ukraine and more have once again put allies on edge. Nigel Farage has just returned from Washington to deepen his ties with Donald Trump – but is he also borrowing Trump's political playbook to distract from increased interests in his undeclared finances ahead of the looming by-election? Gerry unpacks Trump's surprising role in that World Cup red card controversy.
Katy Balls, Washington editor and columnist at The Times and The Sunday Times
Gerard Baker, columnist at The Times and editor at large at The Wall Street Journal
Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson
Executive producer: Molly Guinness
Picture: Getty Images
Audio: Reuters
00:00 - Will Trump Pull Out of NATO?
00:41 - "They’re Scum" — Is the Iran Ceasefire Officially Over?
05:21 - NATO Summit Chaos: Trump Slams "Weak" European Allies
07:51 - The Absurd Battle for Greenland (Are We Planning for War?)
17:45 - Nigel Farage Resigns: Copied Straight From the Trump Playbook
26:30 - Trump’s Bizarre World Cup Intervention (The Secret FIFA Call)
31:46 - Why Trump’s Strongman Tactics Just Backfired
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The State of It: USA is a weekly US politics podcast from The Times and The Sunday Times, offering agenda‑setting analysis of American power and its global impact. It promises frank, in‑depth conversations that cut through spin, conspiracy and partisanship to explain what is really happening inside the White House and beyond.
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