Secret Leaders

If you've not read Atomic Habits by James Clear, we urge you to stop what you’re doing and go and get it. It's one of those books that once you've read it, you start to think about how those ideas can change your reality. 

“The book’s been out almost two years now and has sold over two million copies. And for me, the most gratifying thing is that the ideas are useful. The best thing is to see people using them to build better habits in their own life or to break habits that they've been struggling with for a while.”

While James is not the father of thinking about habits, he is an expert on the subject, having built up a newsletter around the topic years before launching his bestselling book. 

“I'm not the smartest person, I'm not the fastest person, I’m not the first person to talk about this stuff. But I want to do it in a way that's useful.”

By doing this, he's simply a master of demonstrating what best practice looks like and how that impact can impact your future, which above anything else, makes him a person you might want to listen to. 

“A habit is a behaviour that's tied to a particular context. And what you start to realise is that you cannot have a behaviour outside of an environment. They all happen within a certain context. Any time the environment changes in a big way, behaviour changes in a big way.”

So for everything you need to know about habits and how they can help you be the best version of yourself, don’t miss out on this truly insightful and illuminating episode. 

We chat about:

  • Why habits are universally timeless 
  • How Uber was founded on users’ habits
  • What a habit is
  • How COVID has changed our habits
  • Bad habits that leaders should avoid
  • Important habits for startups to avoid 


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Secret Leaders is the UK's top business podcast featuring the stories & struggles to success from founders of companies likes Slack, Deliveroo, Calm, Shazam, Jo Malone, & more. It also features some of the investors crazy enough to back them, and group interviews from sold out live events on managing mental health, equality, financing, managing in times of crisis and more. Check out our other show "Represented" for black startup founders pitching for funding from great investors. This description is from Secret Leaders.

Secret Leaders promises a collection of contrasting, irreverent interviews with the high-flying CEOs and forward-thinking founders of some of the most successful businesses in the UK and the US right now, including Martha Lane Fox (, Anne Boden (Starling Bank), Jed McCaleb (Ripple, Mt.Gox and Stellar) and Jason Calacanis (first Uber investor).

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